{"id":938,"date":"2005-09-15T06:31:00","date_gmt":"2005-09-15T10:31:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/example.org\/blogads_logo_re"},"modified":"2005-09-15T06:31:00","modified_gmt":"2005-09-15T10:31:00","slug":"blogads_logo_re","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/makingripples.com\/?p=938","title":{"rendered":"Blogads logo redesign has some &#8220;experts&#8221; in an uproar"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Henry Copeland does not follow conventional rules. He built a multi-million dollar enterprise on the notion that advertisers might want to advertise on blogs. He felt they might want&nbsp; to engage 500,000 opinion makers, instead of pestering 100,000,000 nobodies. <\/p>\n<p>The secret? Smart Blogads join a community&#8217;s conversation rather than shouting over it. As a result, Blogads have become an increasingly important part of the blogosphere.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/ripples.typepad.com\/photos\/uncategorized\/blogads_logo30.jpg\" title=\"Blogads_logo30\" alt=\"Blogads_logo30\" style=\"margin: 0px 20px 5px 5px; float: right;\" \/>Henry achieved three years of success while defying conventional wisdom and using a scrawny scribble of a corporate logo that was a <a href=\"http:\/\/weblog.blogads.com\/comments\/1135_0_1_0_C\/\">mistake<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>This year, he decided to create a new logo. Blogging friends in the ad industry said &quot;do an RFP, hire a pro, draft a creative brief, hammer out a brand identity&#8230; do it right!&quot; Demotivated by that feedback and with lots of other projects bubbling, he put the idea on the backburner.<\/p>\n<p>Recently, he turned the task of designing the new logo over to the internet with this notice:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Blogads.com needs a new logo. I hope you can help. We&#8217;ll pay $1000 to the creator of our new logo and $300 to the blogger whose post refers or inspires her\/him. <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>You can read the story of the logo collaboration <a href=\"http:\/\/www.blogads.com\/Help_us_build_a_new_logo\">here<\/a>. It makes fascinating reading.<\/p>\n<p>Henry decided that Blogads needed a new logo and he went about it in his non-traditional style and a few &quot;experts&quot; have gotten their knickers all bunched up as a result. <\/p>\n<p>There are more than <a href=\"http:\/\/www.blogads.com\/Help_us_build_a_new_logo\/entry_list\">365 entries<\/a> from a lot of talented people who understand the blogosphere, but a few of <a href=\"http:\/\/ripples.typepad.com\/ripples\/2004\/04\/yesterdays_expe.html\">yesterdays experts<\/a> are <a href=\"http:\/\/weblog.blogads.com\/comments.php?id=1148_0_1_0_C\">sputtering <\/a>about the way it was done. <\/p>\n<p>I had to put in my opinion, of course, when I read this &quot;expert&#8217;s&quot; advice: <\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>My advice to you is to hire (or persuade) a professional designer to pick the 10-15 logos that will go on your shortlist. You could then make your decision from that pool.<\/p>\n<p>In all honesty, if you pick the logo yourself, or if you allow the people who are leaving comments to have a hand in the decision, you are going to waste 1300 dollars on a badly designed logo. From your previous post, and based on some of the completely ludicrous comments left on the entries&#8230; I suspect that you&#8217;re not going to make the right choice.<br \/>Posted by: Brian Ford on Sep 14, 05 | 9:45 am<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I wrote:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Henry, consider the purpose for this logo redesign and who your target customers are.<\/p>\n<p>If your target customers are blog-savvy businesses that want to advertise effectively in the blogosphere, a good logo is one that punches up the informal, but effective conversational style of blogosphere communications<\/p>\n<p>If your target customers are from the Proctor and Gamble school of marketing. then Brian Ford&#8217;s suggestion might make sense, because you will attract ad agency flacks who respect and honor logos that grace the pages of Communication Arts.<\/p>\n<p>Your call, of course, but simpler and real are better in my opinion.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Which elicited this response: <\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>I disagree pretty much 100% with what David St. Lawrence says in his comment.<\/p>\n<p>A &quot;good&quot; logo is one that is designed well; regardless of who the target audience happens to be. There are plenty of logos in the list that follow the guidelines set forth in the entry form, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that they are automatically &quot;well designed&quot; logos. In fact, I would say the opposite happens to be true in this case&#8230; <strong>This isn&#8217;t about target audiences. It&#8217;s about getting advice from someone who -knows- design. <\/strong>(my emphasis)<br \/>Posted by: Brian Ford on Sep 14, 05 | 10:28 am<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>and another:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>I&#8217;m going to inject my honest opinion here. Many of the logos submitted are absolutely useless for branding. Many of them are not vector&#8230;.&nbsp; It will be nearly impossible to pick a logo you can brand with the rigid guidelines you set. &#8230;For $1000 I would have thought you&#8217;d want to make sure you were getting something you could actually use.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Posted by: William Chastain on Sep 14, 05 | 4:32 pm<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>These &quot;experts&quot; are confusing design with branding. Blogads has overcome the limitations of a <a href=\"http:\/\/weblog.blogads.com\/comments\/1135_0_1_0_C\/\">&quot;butt ugly&quot;<\/a> logo by delivering on the promise of expected service. If Henry can find a new logo that aligns with customer expectations, I think he will be just fine.<\/p>\n<p>What do you think?<\/p>\n<p>Tag: <a rel=\"tag\" href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/Blogads\">Blogads<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Henry Copeland does not follow conventional rules. 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